Volume 4, Chapter 8: A Much Needed Talk

RWBY: Volume 4, Chapter 8: A Much Needed Talk

It's been several months since the Fall of Beacon, and the world of Remnant is still recovering. Tensions are high, lives have been lost, and the members of Team RWBY... are divided. Each of our heroines now faces a journey of their own. While some must search inward if they ever hope to move on, others will venture out into the world in search of answers. Alongside the remaining members of Team JNPR, Ruby Rose has begun the long trek to the kingdom of Mistral, but the road ahead is full of surprises. New friends and enemies await, while the threat of an even larger catastrophe draws near.

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  • Wizrar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 days ago

    i noticed when he was talking about Salem he looked up at the moon, perhaps Salem, being a potential owner of one of the orbs, had used it to make a statement and blown up part of the moon? maybe there was a 5th school, one on the unnamed continent? If  so it would make sense seeing as the place is abandoned but as to where she is there are signs of development in the land. Flat terrain and large pillars of stone/whatever it is, if anything it was a continent similar to the desert on the west coast, leading me to believe the place they reside was a old town if not the school itself. any thoughts? If not this, its clearly developed to even a minimal degree, so if not that she had taken it for herself. giving her a target for powerful enemies and allies such as Wattz, who clearly has a influence seeing as not only is he extremely well dressed but he managed to get a meeting with a school headmaster, not common id think. 

  • combatukulele FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold ayyy

    1 week ago

    #bleedpurple?

  • Crimson45 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Nope

    1 month ago

    still upset we never saw juanes semblence

    • Sonicdream2002 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      I've been thinking about this and I think he's a healer. They never say that general semblence use is for healing, but for protection and kind of acts as a shield. Juan is the only one I've seen that used his semblence to heal himself though it was only for bruises and cuts.

  • LtWilson

    3 months ago

    Please tell me someone else caught Blake saying "Paws-itive" while talking with her father.

  • Niiru_Kidsquid

    5 months ago

    "The White Fang is evil, I totally called it and I'm bringing your daughter back!" -Favorite line of Sun in volume 5

    Seriously the delivery on that line is amazing in the fact it sounded both serious and very I knew it kind of fashion. 

  • Scarlet_Firesong

    5 months ago

    WHAT. NO. QROW WHAT

  • Firestar1992 Pandora

    5 months ago

    It's interesting how much distrust Jaune has for Qrow, yet he was still willing to do his part in carrying him. I'm curious if that was more for Ruby's sake than his. Because...shipping happens. :)

    • JMeisterJ FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Ummmm, Trying to be a Le

      4 months ago

      I am so glad I'm not the only ArkRose shipper lol

  • baykunn

    5 months ago

    After Qrow's revelations about the two gods and their relics, I have two questions: First, If Grimm are supposed to destroy all life, why have they focused almost exclusively on humanity? I mean, in a previous WoR, they said Grimm only really fight animals because of territorial disputes, not seek them out. Shouldn't Grimm be trying to eliminate whatever life is in their way? And second, the two gods created humanity, but does that include the faunus? Because in a WoR, they separate humanity and faunus, but how exact is that? Are faunus an evolution of humanity in a way, like a sub type? Or did another super natural being or interference make the faunus, I wonder.

    • RaizoX90

      5 months ago

      Wow girl you are a smart cookie aren't you?

    • WolfWhiteFire

      2 weeks ago

      Good point, one weak possibility is that the Grimm are smart enough to strategize to a point. The humans are a big threat, the animals are defenseless. If they killed allthe animals and then attacked humans and a lot of them died, they couldn't get energy from eating them to reproduce, and they would have a very hard time recovering. If they focused on humans first, and animals second, they could attack humans and if they fail and many die they could hunt the animals for a bit to recover their population or become stronger, not really sure how grimm work, and then once they finish off the humans they could kill all the animals easily. That or humans just taste a lot better to them, and they got spoiled with eating humans so they aren't willing to eat the less tasty animals.

  • walk2theend FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    So.. the religion is basically Zoroastrianism?

  • MobyDickens FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Nihilistic Optimist

    6 months ago

    And the contrast between fathers is astounding, and the situations their daughters were in are startlingly similar.

  • Agent-arkino

    6 months ago

    that comment on blakes choice of clothing though i was on the floor laughing i mean i was expecting tai yang to say something about yangs choice in clothing but this! This is just hilarious

  • Wobblins FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RTX Vet

    6 months ago

    Vale - Knowledge

    Vacuo - Destruction

    Mistral - Choice

    Atlas - Creation

    • RWBYlover935 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      5 months ago

      holy shit i think your on to something

  • Jonborg123

    6 months ago

    Like how the Father Voices the Father 

  • user-564a67db9faa9

    6 months ago

    I love Blake's mother, she's a amazing. 

  • xses FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    I'm a terrible person. But all I can think of right now is:


    A furry + the creation relic = the faunus.

  • Shorikon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    So now Qrow will die for....... reasons. 

  • Henrycool

    6 months ago

    i hope your wrong nubia-amarath Qrow is our brother from another world we can't lose him to

  • nubia-amaranth

    6 months ago

    Qrow's voice *dying*

    • Henrycool

      6 months ago

      I don't think Qrow is dying he used the same poison he was going to use on Ruby Qrow just needs some medicine

  • Krios343

    6 months ago

    So, I just rewatched the Maidens' WoR and it made me think about a possible connection between Maidens and Relics.

    There are four Relics: Choiche, Knowledge, Creation and Destruction. Here's the interesting part:


    Fall -> Choice: Qrow said that Pyrrha had a choice, and she decided to accept the risk in order to become the Fall Maiden; she decided, but the important thing is that she had a Choice.

    Winter -> Knowledge: Winter urged the wizard to take time and reflect, isn't it a sign of knowledge?

    Spring -> Creation: Again, Qrow said to Raven that without the Spring Maiden they are all going to die. If Spring is related to the Creation Relic, wouldn't it make more sense?

    Summer -> Destruction: In the WoR she receives fire powers, and fire is often regarded as an instrument of destruction, isn't it?


    Also, when the Wizard gave the Maidens their power we can see that the powers are presented in the form of orbs, which reminded me once again of the Relics.

    Maybe I'm stretching things, but what do you think?


    If someone already made this theory, I apologize, I promise I'm not stealing your idea, there are just too many comments to go through. 

     

  • Descends_From_Shadows

    6 months ago

    I still have a question about Qrow's Semblance though. Since Semblances are a tangible version of people's Auras, it would require them to have some Aura in order to use it right? But since Qrow and Tyrian both drained their Auras when they crashed that roof, why did Qrow's Semblance still take effect? I know he can't turn it off but shouldn't his drained Aura be enough to stop it temporarily? And because of the prolonged use of his Semblance, shouldn't it take a toll on his body like fatigue or something like that?

    • JasonAzuli1234 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      6 months ago

      It probably does. The stress his semblance causes is probably what helped turned him into a drunk. 


      I swear to god RT better not kill off #DrunkleQrow

  • Descends_From_Shadows

    6 months ago

    Qrow poisons himself everyday. It makes him delirious, tired and hallucinate. He should be fine. XD

  • TCOOKIES777 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Naomi

    6 months ago

    Ren: Whenever one of them dies, the power transfers to someone, a female, that they care about?

    Qrow: Whoever was in their thoughts last. Important distinction.

    So does that mean the position of a Maiden is actually not gender-specific? A male can be a maiden? I mean, there has to be a reason why the writers had that dialogue specifically written the way it is.

    • jj1042

      6 months ago

      No, in volume 3 it was established that the power of the Maidens could only be transferred to young women who were in the final thoughts of the last mainden. No offense, but I think you're reading just a little too much into it.

    • Wotster FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      6 months ago

      The distinction is important because the person they last thought of doesn't necessarily mean they care about them. That's part of why Ozpin's group was concerned with protecting the maidens: if an evil young woman (Cinder) was to kill one of the maidens its highly likely that the killer would be the last person the Maiden thought of.

    • avangiline

      6 months ago

      I noticed this too. And if you were paying close attention, it seems when Ozpin died, he connected with that little boy, Oscar. Now this is all just theoretical, but I think maybe Ozpin was one of the Maidens, and that Oscar was the last in his thoughts. He talked about becoming a hero and being there and just... It makes sense, you know? It would also sorta explain why Oscar keeps hearing his voice and stuff, too.

    • Kerisato

      6 months ago

      Nope, it's gender specific. By default it's a young maiden (which, I'm guessing, is why Glynda Goodwitch hadn't already taken on Autumn's aura) but the only real criteria is they be female.

    • user-564a67db9faa9

      6 months ago

      In volume 3 to my memory, the last person in the maiden's thoughts is the first candidate to receive the power. However, if that individual is a male or considered not worthy, the power goes to someone random. It's important because tracking them can become super difficult once the obvious choices are scouted out. I also don't think Ozpin is a maiden. If anything, he is either the wizard or one of the gods in the story. He does not die, he simply moves to another individual and immortality by transference. 

      Although, Im curious if that means Ozpin had someone inside his head the first 3 volumes giving him advice and conversation lol 

    • WolfWhiteFire

      2 weeks ago

      They did make that machine that could push aura into somebody else, they were going to use it to turn Pyrrha into a maiden, perhaps they tried using it in a different situation with Ozpin, also using one of the maidens, and gave him the powers but something didn't work right and that is why they were going to use an actual female this time.

  • SheDoesLikeTunaALot FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold I made a RWBY cake

    6 months ago

    Regarding Qrow's semblance...


    Firstly, I don't see why some seem to think his semblance and his shapeshifting have to be unrelated.  To me it makes perfect sense.  He's not someone with a misfortune semblance who also happens to be a shapeshifter.  He's a crow, and his crow-self is part of him even when he is in human form, and with the crow comes the misfortune.  Forgive the double negative, but they couldn't be less unrelated.


    Secondly, I think misfortune is a fascinating semblance. It has two very specific boundaries the way I see it. One, of course, is proximity.  By Qrow's estimation of his own power, RNJR is safe as long as they keep a certain distance back from him, but not so far that they are out of eyesight.  This indicates the radius of his power is measured in feet or yards, not miles. Qrow certainly can't be blamed for everything that goes wrong, like, for example, Beacon falling while he was there.


    The other limitation on his power would be that luck can only affect things that are already set in motion.  It's not as though people spontaneously burst into flames when he's around.  Luck only comes into play when something can go one way or the other.  When Qrow is around, it always goes "the other".  Let's look at the example of Ruby and the falling beam.  The beam was unstable and going to fall in some direction at some point in time.  What Qrow's semblance did was make it fall exactly where Ruby was exactly when Ruby was there.  If Ruby and Qrow had been standing under a well constructed building, it's not as though a stable beam would have jumped out of the wall and made for Ruby's head.


    Because of this, Qrow's semblance is only truly dangerous when the situation is already dangerous without him.  Otherwise, it's more irritating.  I imagine the day back at Beacon when team STRQ's alarm clock broke during the night before a big test on they all overslept, and other such things.  It would undoubtedly be trying, being around him for long periods of time, constantly dropping things, misplacing things, having things dropped or spilled on you, or having your homework blown out of your hands by the breeze and having to chase it around the courtyard.  Even if nobody's in mortal danger just for being in the room with him, it would indeed make it hard on family and friends. He also gets to be burdened by the guilt of whatever bad things happen to people he loves while he is around, whether or not those bad things would have happened anyway. He truly is a tragic character in this way, and my heart breaks with feels for him.


    When his semblance is actually dangerous is when there's danger already afoot, like in a fight, when the stakes of luck go from being about whether or not you knock a glass off the bar with your elbow to being about which mortal blows hit and miss you.  Then his semblance can be deadly.  In any fight where the killer blow comes down and Qrow is not there, the attack might connect and the person might die anyway.  But they might also survive.  If Qrow is around, the attack will connect and the person will die.  His semblance hasn't killed them, but he doomed them by taking away whatever slim odds they might of had of surviving.


    As for him keeping his distance from Amber and RNJR, while still watching over them, this also makes perfect sense.  Even when they are not currently engaged in a fight, with Salem out there the Maidens and Ruby are always in danger.  As they travel, they are in a constant state of high stakes where luck can be the difference between life and death.  With Amber, it didn't make any difference.  She got herself into a situation bad enough that she didn't need Qrow's semblance around in order to lose her fight.  With RNJR, it's hard to say.  Maybe they would have ended up in the exact same awful situation they are currently in (as of V4E9) if Qrow had travelled with them.  Or maybe their situation would have been even worse (nobody's dead... yet).


    (Yikes. Sorry for the term paper. I wonder what my life could have been like if I had put this much thought into actual assignments back when I was in school...)


    That's my analysis, anyway. Thoughts?

    • JaimeEashy

      6 months ago

      k

    • Kerisato

      6 months ago

      I loved this. Your analysis is well thought out, and presented in a coherent manner. Top marks for the grammar, too. None too long either (my posts can reach that length but they're also less cohesive). And I agree with most of it.

    • Shaythecat

      6 months ago

      I freaking love your analysis so much! 

      The way you explained the limitations of his semblance made so much sense. The second point of the limits being influencing "things that are already set in motion" reminded me of how the Scarlet Witch in the Marvel Comics has the power of probability manipulation- to give a quick summary, the Scarlet Witch's mutant power in the comics is to influence the odds of things happening like stopping bullets or opening doors (there's a video on youtube that explains her powers and who she is, it's right here if you are interested!).

      Qrow's semblance seems to function in a similar way; influencing the odds of things happening, but in the case it's influencing the odds of misfortune happening when the conditions are right for misfortune. The example of the loose beam falling on Ruby was a perfect example of those conditions; if the beam was secure and sound, then Qrow's semblance would not have influenced it to fall, but since it was not secure and likely to fall at some point, his semblance increased the odds of beam falling. (I'm not explaining this nearly as eloquent as you did, but you get the idea right?)


      I love how you pointed out that his semblance doesn't always cause horrible life threatening things to happen, and how it probably effected his team mates during his school days. In the heat of battle it's a hazard, but on a normal day it's a minor- or maybe not so minor- annoyance. 


      Personally, I love how long this comment is; it means you put a lot of thought and detail into your idea. We need more long analysis comments like this! Good work! 

    • Dinomannick FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      5 months ago

      An excellent analysis that has solid proof if you go back to when Qrow's induced in vol 3, chapters 2 & 3. The first one is subtle, as he leaves the bar, the bartender fumbles the glass he was cleaning, strong proof that he semblance does affect small, everyday events. The second and most obvious with this theory in-mind, is that Winter has the misfortune to both initiate the fight with Qrow and that Ironwood came out at the time he did. Qrow's semblance took hold first when he was taunting her, then acted when he finally got under her skin, and continued to affect her luck with the a fore mentioned timing of Ironwood arriving. Strong evidence for this theory is it not?

  • tooksby FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold magical girl in training

    6 months ago

    Juana becomes less and less likeable with every episode 

  • TheRetina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    does anyone else think Blake's mom knows something about Ilia? when any show hangs on characters with that kind of look on their face, usually means they're involved more than we know.

  • Singing_Marco

    6 months ago

    I love how RT brings current real world ideals and beliefs to the story!!! God of light? God of darkness? Like WOW... the reaction from everyone when learning the truth.

  • LibrarraXerx

    6 months ago

    So, I wrote a rather simple explanation about Magic and Dust in RWBY on the SubReddit. Tried to make it as simple as possible.

    >https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/5mu3wr/of_dust_and_magic/

  • Henrycool

    6 months ago

    Qrow being out of commission is not good who is going to carry him Ruby I mean shit just shit D:>

  • Nintendoentersoft

    6 months ago

    In a nutshell, Salem is on a hunt for the RWBY counterparts of the infinity stones. 

  • Nephilim23

    6 months ago

    GUYS!!!!

    Remember that Tyrian was fully intending to use his venom on Ruby. Why would he inject her with a lethal dose when he was specifically ordered to BRING HER BACK ALIVE?  Qrow is probably just unconscious 

    • Xaimi

      6 months ago

      The one catch with this theory is that Qrow is not Ruby. Rest assured, Tyrian would have killed everyone, except Ruby, to achieve Salem's goal.

    • JaimeEashy

      6 months ago

      @Xaimi lol idk if you remembered but Tyrian didnt even know Qrow was comming and he was about to hit Ruby with his tail

    • Xaimi

      6 months ago

      @JaimeEashy lol I remember, but what I am saying is that I think Tyrian can change his venom at will. Those of use implying the venom change are not talking about when Qrow first appeared in that fight-- more so to when he was attacked at its end.

  • vinci65812301

    6 months ago

    DAMNIT RLY RT?! rly?! Blake's dad knows whats up tho....they need armor (y) also that crow better not be hiding a sharingan....

  • edgarthe12th

    6 months ago

    Mother fucker you best not leave me. :'<

  • AaronSim FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    If misfortune is Qrow's semblance, then perhaps his and Raven's bird transformation has something to do with their Red eyes.


    The real tragedy of a semblance like that would be never knowing if it was really your fault, or if it was just fate.  It would color your perception of the world.  You'd end up blaming yourself for everything that goes wrong around you.  That would wreck a person, but would explain a lot about him.  Damn...

    • Jtrugdeuvy

      5 months ago

      That maybe why he gets drunk to forget about his misfortune 

  • Millie361

    6 months ago

    His blood is not purple, he got cut by a scorpion didn't he? Scorpions have poison in there tails, therefore it is poison.

  • Ilchenko FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    Why is his blood purple?

    • Millie361

      6 months ago

      His blood is not purple, he got cut by a scorpion tail, that means it was poison

  • Henrycool

    6 months ago

    I got to say why don't one of them stay up and keep watch what if Tyrian were to kill Jaune Ren,Nora,and lord forbid Qrow and take Ruby

    • AaronSim FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      6 months ago

      Good point.  They had someone take turns on watch while they were sleeping in Mountain Glenn.

  • Henrycool

    6 months ago

    Jaune is still mad/sad about Pyrriha

  • Henrycool

    6 months ago

    well there is a strategy that Qrow was kinda of using where a he stays back a little bit while the main group goes forward and if the main group gets attacked the guy behind gives them support

  • strigon9 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    New theory.


    So, all of Qrow's semblance usage that has been confirmed is basically down to people not paying attention; Tyrian with the beam, Ruby with the log, the bartender and his glass that fell.


    My theory is that Qrow's semblance isn't actually bad luck; people are just distracted by how much of a boss he is, and make mistakes.

  • GoddamLochNessMonster

    6 months ago

    The legend of the the two brother gods is really awesome (and a clever little reference to the Grimm Brothers), but the only thing I find kind of weird about this is if the Grimm were created by the God of Darkness to destroy everything his older brother created then why do Grimm only exclusively attack humans and faunus? Also, if Humanity was created as a compromise between the two brothers and both were proud of them then it seems even more strange that the Grimm would actively seek and attack humanity. Of course I suppose it might be just a legend that was told to explain the origin of the four relics...

    • KingThorn FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      6 months ago

      I was also thinking about this, and i wonder if Grimm attack humans so often BECAUSE they are the compromise between the brothers? We've learned that Grimm are supposedly getting smarter. It makes sense to me that in order for them to destroy everything that's been created, they would first target the only beings left that can create new things. 


      I think the Grimm wouldn't care that humans are the compromise because according to the legend, Grimm were created and given purpose before humans existed. I think by the time humans came around, the Grimm and the will of the dark brother were already completely seperated. 


      Or maybe I'm reading too much into it and it really is just a story to explain the relics. 

  • thesonofcinder

    6 months ago

    "white fang is evil, i totally called it, and im bringing your daughter back."

    nice sunn , very settle

  • lukeglover80 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RT is Great!

    6 months ago

    This is an amazing episode, purely because of some things being explained. I'd like to learn more about Salem's origin and who the heck she really is.

    Also...Qrow better not have just died. I'll be extremely pissed. Ruby just didn't listen...

  • lukeglover80 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RT is Great!

    6 months ago

    hmmm so what's ozpin. That wizard or w/e? Cause he nor that boy are female (yes im stating the obvious).

    • JexRC

      6 months ago

      I'd like to point out that his name is OZpin and his assistant is Glenda. Wizard of Oz anyone?

  • Blanktheorist FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    Malkuth and Keter.....Games we play 2 is going to become either really easy, or really hard to write with this backstory.

  • Asshole_Undead

    6 months ago

    He's right about the ''more armor'' comment though. It is always good to gird yourself with slabs of glorious steel, brass, titanium and kevlar.

    • craziness FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      6 months ago

      Except when you fight using mobility since that would lower your mobility and as far as I've seen Blake is more of a mobile fighter than anything

    • Ronnoc527

      6 months ago

      I think he was just using that as an excuse, he was really being an overprotective dad. Asking her to not expose skin.

  • SilverDust FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    what yall wanna bet that Ozpin was like the wizard of Oz lol and now Oscar is too

    • UncertainTitle

      6 months ago

      There were four books written about the Land of Oz. The one after the Wizard of Oz was about a boy named Pip who grew up on a farm, and turned out to be the long lost princess of Oz, Ozma. Her identity was hidden by Glinda, so the Wicked Witches wouldn't find her. It ends with Pip accepting his destiny, and allowing himself to be changed back into a girl.

    • JexRC

      6 months ago

      Don't you mean Ozcar ;)

  • poopswafh

    6 months ago

    I hope crow did not die 

    • Ronnoc527

      6 months ago

      Qrow* but I agree. He is my favorite character that is not part of RWBY, JNPR or Vacuoe gang. 

    • Nephilim23

      6 months ago

      Tyrion's venom is clearly non-lethal considering he was going to use it on Ruby, besides the way Qrow was stung is like the LEAST ideal way for a scorpion to inject it's venom

  • KingThorn FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    Here's a thought. As far as I can remember, we've never heard Haven's Headmaster's name. All we know is that Oz has faith in him (like he does all the headmasters) and that he hadn't been heard from since before the fall of Beacon. 


    We also know next to nothing about the individual members of Salem's crew, save their names and what little we've learned about Cinder. However, one of them (I believe his name is Watts, the one with the dark hair and fancy blue coat) looks, at least to me, a lot like what a headmaster would look like. 


    My natural train of thought is this: What if Watts IS Haven's headmaster, and team RNJR are walking in to what could be a huge trap at Haven? It would explain why the headmaster seemed to disappear right before Beacon was attacked, and also why Watts seems to be so intelligent and also condescending to the others in their evil meetings. At first I thought he was just a pretentious jerk, but it would also make sense for him to be an academic. 


    This would NOT explain why they had Tirrion (sp) find and attack RNJR, unless they wanted Ruby alone instead of waiting until the whole team got to Haven to ambush them, but I definitely think that Watts being the headmaster would be one hell of a plot twist. 

    • 3939phoenix

      6 months ago

      I was thinking that too. And the reason Tyrian was sent after Ruby because they did not know that she and RNJR were heading to Haven

    • SheDoesLikeTunaALot FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold I made a RWBY cake

      6 months ago

      Okay, your Haven headmaster theory just blew my mind!  It would explain why we haven't actually heard the headmaster spoken about using his name.  It would make the trip to Mistral totally moot.  Haven doesn't need to fall like Beacon did if Watts can just hand Salem the Haven relic.  Seriously, mind blown, world perspective forever altered.

    • Kerisato

      6 months ago

      Been thinking the same thing.

  • fairy.tail

    6 months ago

    Shouldnt the new esp come out today ?

    • Tirelessworm16

      6 months ago

      For first members only. Regular members see the episode tomorrow. I know it sucks.

    • fairy.tail

      6 months ago

      I am not very good at computers I not even sure  how I got myself this far I think am on a 30 day trial thing 

      Thank you for your help have a nice day 

    • Ronnoc527

      6 months ago

      As far as I know, First Members get it, then normal members like you and I and finally guests.

  • Plutia

    6 months ago

    Alright so people apparently still think Qrow can turn into a crow. Rofl, you guys amuse me.

    • Carterb92

      6 months ago

      Uhhhh, cause he can they have showed it atleast twice on screen. He was flying towards Ruby then transformed to start running before engaging in battle.

    • AaronSim FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      6 months ago

      Red eyes people. RED EYES!

      "Remnant's full of legends and stories. Some of them true, some made up." - Qrow Branwen